I truly do not understand how so many omissions, distortions and outright LIES in the offical 9/11 Commission report have not sparked protests which blanket DC. The evidence is there. It's not 'speculative'. Larry Silverstein(leaseholder of WTC7) is on videotape saying "yea, go ahead and pull it. . ." ("pull" being a demolition trade term for "bring it down with explosives") regarding WTC building #7. Since it takes at minimum two weeks to set up explosives for a large steel building demolition. . . when were those explosives put there? Does anybody think that some demolition crew entered that building after the towers were hit and set explosives *just in case. . .*? Just in case of what?
It is not speculation to say that before 9/11, NO STEEL BUILDING had ever come down because of fire, even steel buildings with *much* worse fires.
It is a fact that burning jet fuel, even at its maximum efficiency, is not hot enough to melt steel. It is also a fact that the black smoke pouring out of the towers indicates that those fires were oxygen starved, i.e. NOT burning anywhere close to maximum efficiency.
It is a fact that satellite thermo-imaging located at least three 'hot spots' underneath the WTC rubble. These hot spots were so hot there were POOLS of molten steel that remained there burning for weeks.
What got the steel that hot???
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
There are so many disturbing implications in the available data that the whole country could be shrieking for a reopening of the 9/11 investigation, and *this* time without commission members who sit on the boards of multinational corporations with enormous vested interests in the Iraq war.
How does this 'americans-now-lay-down-like-a-lapdog' thing happen?
Are the majority of people in this country that fucking dumb and/or apathetic?
It is not speculation to say that before 9/11, NO STEEL BUILDING had ever come down because of fire, even steel buildings with *much* worse fires.
It is a fact that burning jet fuel, even at its maximum efficiency, is not hot enough to melt steel. It is also a fact that the black smoke pouring out of the towers indicates that those fires were oxygen starved, i.e. NOT burning anywhere close to maximum efficiency.
It is a fact that satellite thermo-imaging located at least three 'hot spots' underneath the WTC rubble. These hot spots were so hot there were POOLS of molten steel that remained there burning for weeks.
What got the steel that hot???
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
There are so many disturbing implications in the available data that the whole country could be shrieking for a reopening of the 9/11 investigation, and *this* time without commission members who sit on the boards of multinational corporations with enormous vested interests in the Iraq war.
How does this 'americans-now-lay-down-like-a-lapdog' thing happen?
Are the majority of people in this country that fucking dumb and/or apathetic?
posted by:
|
Colorado
|
-
Re: Why aren't we in total revolt?
Wed, July 27, 2005 - 9:50 AMI wondered this when Kent State happened........
We're not hungry enough? & under heavy media sedation?
We're a nation of complacency willing to let others do?
We're a Nation that is too concerned with "not being a Victim" & is too willing to blame others as the Victim & blame the Victim for what went wrong.
I'm not the Victim so nothing happened to me. I'm ok yr ok ????
But do not waken the bully..... let busy bullies lie..... don't stir a bully pot....
if you say No he'll get mad.....
SOoo why did you stay with him? Why didn't you change the way you behaved? Then he would not have bullied you!
I loved him? No one said his behavior was wrong so I thought it was OK.
I was too beat up & bullied to worry about my behavior changing his behavior.........
Welll you can't change others behavior now can you? You can only change yr own.
& so the cycle goes............. Talk 'round $pay$make$con$worry$bully$$$$$
-
Re: Why aren't we in total revolt?
Sat, July 30, 2005 - 12:34 AMi am not in total revolt because i am on double felony probation and the last time i opened my mouth and protested i got four months. now the only right i have left is the one to remain silent and as you can see i am barely exercising it. also brother decimus and sister g-my bio and tribes clearly outline my position on what you are saying. i just dont need the men in black suits banging on my door. yet. -
-
Re: Why aren't we in total revolt?
Sat, July 30, 2005 - 4:42 AMLoud and clear, Gypsy. The walls of DC secrecy are higher and thicker than they have ever been in this country, all in the name of "Homeland Security".
And the Federal Storm Troopers/SS are indeed cracking down hard on those with potentially-. . .inconvenient. . .information. Bluntly, the Feds kill them.
Check the record. Like Nazi Germany, which forged new abyssive levels of horror, so is our government. All one has to do it examine the available data (almost NONE of which is in the 911 C(O)mission Report).
By the way; anybody else aware that 8 of the 10 Comission Report members were or had been board members on multinational corporations which stand to gain, hundreds of millions from the pipeline being built from the Caspian Basin through Afghanistan? Trillions of dollars of oil and natural gas are in the land-locked C. basin. Without a route out it is almost worthless.
www.karlschwarz.com
is the best of who's writing about this, imo. He is a former Republican DC insider who got disgusted by the Bush Cabal crowd gorging themselves at the big oil trough. He's a real sharp guy, and he's a bulldog.
I think that enough people know about him now that he likely won't die in a 'car accident' soon. At least I hope. . . -
-
Re: Why aren't we in total revolt?
Sat, July 30, 2005 - 10:24 AMAnybody know that John Paul Jones belatedly recieved orders from the newly formed government of America to go into the area to obtain the mineral/oil rights that Russia & France were already fighting over??? The Sultanate, mother of the Sultan, was An American that had turned god forbid - Moosleman -after spending a life in the Harem when she was not rescued after having been taken on the sea "Surreee America wants to save me Nowww! Honey you just keep all yr mineral rights here in Our country for Our people.... Was John Paul a suicide or just too drunk?????
Why was the English army outside of Kabul 200+ years ago??? & Russia & they were begging Afganistan to set up Consuls for Peace????
I just read Kingdom (can't find it to give the author's name) about JB Hunt & his rise to being the richest man in America through oil & all his Sons!! that are still in the oil business! & organized sports (think Astro dome, football etc), & food -Hunt's food, & managed the silver run in the 80's that almost toppled money as we know it & the US Gov't bailed the Hunt boys out of the mess just about when they went into Saudi Oil grounds..... Oh you mean that Saudi bush oil project? I mean sandi bushes that exude oil, I mean money, I mean guns, I mean, I mean, I mean,,,,,,,,,,,,,
It's a lllonnnggg way to Tiperary my friends & I doubt that we know 1/1000 of 1/1000 percent of how we got here...... -
-
Re: Why aren't we in total revolt?
Sat, July 30, 2005 - 11:12 AMas queen of the conspiracy theories in my circles and who cant seem to keep microsoft off my back lately w/ three, yep, computer crashes in the past 8 months, i am careful what i say, sort of. but, you dont have to dig to far to see that berries dont far fall from the bush and that what is happening now has been part of a master plan well thought out and masterminded by many, not just bush and his puppets. it's all about the future, and IMO nothing about oil at all. best leave that one alone. IMO it's global positioning and oil is necessary for now cause we use it. in 100 yrs. we won't be. but we (not just the US) are part of an equation far greater than perserving democracy and eradicating terriosm, give me a f-ing break and here i go and here they come. so i better shut up. but ya know what. great cover tribe. -
-
Re: Why aren't we in total revolt?
Sun, July 31, 2005 - 9:56 AMhehehhehehehehehahahehehehaahhhhhh -
-
Re: Why aren't we in total revolt?
Mon, August 1, 2005 - 7:46 AMwww.karlschwarz.com
www.reopen911.org
I'm convinced that we live in an Oligarchy, or Plutocracy, or Fascist state.
Democracy? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
My hunch is that most people's denial about this is so strong because they can't psychologically handle the truth [hear Jack Nicholson].
When I left the circus , people I met were very interested in hearing of my experience until I started telling the truth about it, which was in conflict with their cherished mythos of what the circus *is*. Something about human beings seems to require mythos'. The officail 9/11 story is certainly one of them, seemingly making 'sense' of chaos.
I get the image of most Americans as baby birds with their mouths straining to the sky, desperate and needing 'sense' from the 'experts':
"Cheep!Cheep! Cheep! Cheep! Give us something that'll make us less terrified!" -
-
Re: Why aren't we in total revolt?
Mon, August 1, 2005 - 10:38 AMIf you hand feed baby birds with a syringe & do not make them struggle, they grow fat like Christmas geese, & their legs weaken so they cannot stand, & then at a point where they seem really plump & healthy they just inexplicably die.....
But if you make them fight for the syringe, after they have come to recognize it as their feeding instrument, they get long strong legs & beat their wings to get closer to the food & suddenly they are birds that can start feeding themselves & fly.......
What's democracy anyway? Can you eat it? drive it?
Isn't it more like a designer label but the average wearer/purchaser knows little about the designer or the process but that it is 'in' fashion to wear?
Mythos for the average worker has always been salvation......
In the forward to the book of the Boston Strangler written by the DA on the case the phsychiatrist that headed Boston's Mental Health system at the time pointed out the confusion between sane & insane theories by pointing out that the so called sane do not see, are not aware, of all that goes on so they may remain sane, but the insane see too much & cannot block out so they lose sanity...... mirrors of perception again.......
-
Re: Why aren't we in total revolt?
Mon, August 1, 2005 - 11:29 AMpeople like us in many countries are locked up, tortured, sent to faraway places, killed, or simply just disappear for questioning authority. in fact, dare i say, it happens here.....nah,,we are too civilized...maybe they make us into drug addicts or crazies or test subjects to make us forget things we may saw or know like the boys in vietnam or gulf war......isn't it interesting hep c is a vietnam covered disability as of this year. now why is that........remember the average joe is just that, average and reads and hears what is pushed through on the govt. controlled media. bah bah bah, and yea i'm a black sheep. -
-
Re: Why aren't we in total revolt?
Wed, August 3, 2005 - 5:12 PMwww.septembereleventh.org/newsa...an.php
"The following letter was sent by Kevin Ryan of Underwriters Laboratories to Frank Gayle of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST). Underwriters Laboratories is the company that certified the steel components used in the construction of the World Trade Center towers. The information in this letter is of great importance." -
-
This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.
Re: Why aren't we in total revolt?
Fri, August 5, 2005 - 12:52 AMdenied acess to that link bro.... -
-
Re: Why aren't we in total revolt?
Fri, August 5, 2005 - 4:41 AMHm, I just clicked and got to it.
If it denies access again, just do a Google search for : kevin ryan, underwriters laboratories
thanks for tryin. this is a solar-plexus punch to the gov't version of the collapses. -
-
Re: Why aren't we in total revolt?
Fri, August 5, 2005 - 3:48 PMgot it...marked the website. very interesting. you think the implosion theory of bombs already planted inside the towers is too far fetched?....i believe that is the new documentary out. i forget the name, something like twin towers, or towers of destruction? i buy almost any theory accept the sheep one. IMO only a superpower could mastermind something as brilliant as using their own planes, land, people, and millions of dollars to train alien terriosts on their soil to do the deed in the name of a non christian religion no one understands, thus quickly creating hysteria, hatred, retalitaion and financing a war that would have probably never happened. want a war? that's a quick easy way to get one..want to keep a war? keep terriosm alive..... -
-
Re: Why aren't we in total revolt?
Sat, August 6, 2005 - 7:28 AMGypsy, all,
I think the there is a high likelyhood that explosives were pre-placed in the Towers. As catastrophic as those collapses were, purely from a physical standpoint, *nothing* could have reduced all that concrete to DUST other than high explosives. And nothing could have dropped those towers in their tracks, so symmetrically, than planned detonation. If you're not up on how long it takes to plan such a demolition. . .well. . .at minimum two weeks; usually more.
In my photos profile there's a quote:
"The easiest way to gain control of the population is to carry out acts of 'terror'. The public well clamor for such laws if the personal security is threatened."
Josef Stalin
Unless it isn't painfully obvious to anyone yet, get ready for more and more "terror". However much it takes to justify this continuing US oil robber baron travesty. Blood for oil.
My brother will be risking his blood again over there this fall.
Yet the mainstream media? And most people? ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. -
-
Re: Why aren't we in total revolt?
Sun, August 7, 2005 - 5:27 PMand my godnephew is in airforce. my thoughts are with you for him and your family.
i've been watching over there, the new show on fx. put character devlopment aside, the show blows my mind about the reality of what is going down over there.....
you know, i know, there's lots of people that know, but it doesn't matter....the wheels are in motion.......
there are other tribes to surf and and i quietly amass info. send me email links bro. and i shall too. back to earthworms and checkbooks???
-
Re: Why aren't we in total revolt?
Thu, August 11, 2005 - 9:10 PMAs I watched those towers fall, I thought they looked an *awful* lot like buildings that had been wired to implode. Then all these engineers started talking about how the combination of the building design and the jet fuel caused them to collapse like accordians. I thought, okay, whaddo I know? I'm a poet and a theologian--I've never studied engineering.
Interesting, after four years, to think that I could have been right all along... -
-
Re: Why aren't we in total revolt?
Fri, August 12, 2005 - 4:37 AMI was just thinking this morning about the fact that *both* towers dropped.
The second obliteration reenforces the first. Like a symbolic "dotting the i".
I'm certainly not an engineer, but I know my basic physics; I initially thought the official story was plausible.
I knew nothing about the burning temperature of jet fuel, or the softening and melting temps of steel. That collision and blast was so fucking *awesome*, like Hollywood. . .all the newspeople [I saw and heard, *key*] were saying pretty much the same thing.
I totally bought it.
In this regard I think it's significant to have a "tribe" of sorts in ones' own mind named "I Don't Understand It". This simple declaration opens a thousand new doors. It catalyzes original inquiry. It's our backup parachute when our original assumptions have failed.
www.reopen911.org/Tarpley_ch_6.pdf
This is very good. Many interviews with people in an around the towers before they fell who heard multiple explosions. Most interviewed by German or Dutch news crews.
It requires Adobe Acrobat [available free online if you don't have it]. -
-
Re: Why aren't we in total revolt?
Wed, August 17, 2005 - 1:14 PMhow about that pentagon link? that got me up in arms also.....
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
